Poll Results
Do you think the Republican Party’s victories in the governor’s races in Virginia and New Jersey reflect a growing dissatisfaction with the Obama administration?
| Yes | 636 votes (72%) | |
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| No | 242 votes (28%) |
Comments
- Over 40% of voters polled said Obama's polocies played a signifigant roll in their voting decision. Obamas policies and jobs losses are the same thing. Fact is, no employer that could hire new employees will do so until Obama's train wreck is stopped. You can't believe either party but we all KNOW increased government taxation kills jobs v/s creating them.
- We can argue this one forever, but the 2010 elections will show what a mistake this country felt it made in electing Obama. I do hope rather then electing a bunch of republicans in 2010 that some 3rd party candidates win. If republicans do take back control I hope they have learned that governing like liberal democrats will just get them put right out of office again in 2012.
- Did you see the news Wednesday morning? White House said the defeats had nothing to do with Obama. At what point will the comrades say to him: You’re either with us or against us? There had to be a bad taste in their mouth Wednesday morning even if they won't admit it. The White House claiming that the Republicans winning the races for Governor in VA and NJ weren't about Obama reminds me of Obama claiming he didn't know ACORN was getting federal money. If it is good for Obama, he claims all the credit. If it's bad, he had nothing to do with it.
- You big dummies, no governor has any power at all to change law in the nation, only congress, thats the seats the Democrats won! Get educated Washington County!
- 2010/2012 Problem: I highly expect the Dem's will get an immigration reform bill passed that will legalize 30 Million law breakers and grant them citizenship. These current illegals will be able to vote in 2010 or 2012. So, let's say only 1/2 of them actaully vote and 2/3 of those votes go to Democraps. This breaks down to the Dem's getting an extra 5 Million votes, and thus, taking power from conservatives for decades. I hope I'm wrong but my assessments of such events are normally correct. This is why Dem's are all so embolden to force all this crappy legislation on us.
- Powder1 makes some of the stupidest comments, yet tells Washington County to get educated? Funny!! Powder1, if the Governor’s races weren’t important to Obama, why then did he bother to campaign for those losers? You’re in a state of denial if you think this has nothing to do with some Americans dissatisfaction with the Obama administration. Even more proof that Americans are waking up and finally getting educated!!
- BNF-please re-read your comment. Duh it means 60% did not vote for the either Gov. based on President Obama's record! Even the political "professionals" stated that the off year elections mean NOTHING about the Presidents popluarity. In fact the President still had over a 50% popular vote confidence with the American public. Next years election will make a difference. It was clear that voters who put our President into office did not come out to vote in these elections. We shakk see in 1 year what the story really is.
- Jarhead: What comic books are you reading. Sure the President will support those he thinks will win. Duh-most Presidents do. With as bad as the NJ Gov. was he only lost by 5% of the vote. Since when do Gov.'s have anything to do with healthcare, housing, war, etc. This had nothing to do with the President. Sure people are mad about the economy but just remember OUR President inherited 2 wars and broken economy. Wahington County has been asleep for years and it doesn't appear to be waking up anytime soon.
- Anybody being objective about this? The elections in New Jersey and Virginia demonstrated that the Republican Party is not out of business. Virginia was an indication that the state is still willing to support the Republicans when they have good candidates. New Jersey is much more significant. Although the vote was closer, NJ is much more Democrat in its leanings than VA. Any statewide win for a Republican is significant. The independent vote, which went heavily Democrat last year, swung to the GOP, indicating their willingness to support Republicans. The 10th California was a heavily Democrat district with a better known candidate. His victory was expected by both parties. In the 23rd NY district, the Republicans got into an internal fight with the GOP candidate dropping out and endorsing the Democrat. The fact that the Conservative Party candidate lost by only three points under those circumstances is impressive for him and tells the GOP that if they want that seat back, he's their man to do it.
- Bob: If you can't understand my stat, you have education problems! 40% of those polled in the VA and NJ governors races said O's policies (for or against) affected their voting decision (Repub or Dem). So, to answer the question, O's policies did play a 40% role in the voting outcomes which is abnormally high for state races. Sorry the majority of Americans think your guys policies suck! It is quite obvious the only thing Obama knows how to do is tax, spend and kill jobs.
- While there is a mixed message in this election, it should give both parties a message. Their leaders, whether Obama, Palin, Biden or whoever, do not dictate how people vote. The people may like these people, but they don't follow them blindly. New Jersey saw a terrible governor and Virginia saw a weak candidate with no message. In NY, the GOP learned that party leaders don't pick the candidates, the people do. If they want to win, they run a conservative or moderate Republican not somebody to the left of Nancy Pelosi. For Republicans, the election shows them what to do to win and what to do to lose. For Democrats, they have learned that the two party system is still alive to the horror of their leaders who drooled over the prospect of a one party, one philosophy nation. Some of you like the idea of one party, big government but most Americans don't, which puts you out of the mainstream. Whether Democrat or Republican, single party rule is not good for the preservation of democracy.
- For those who continue to berate the people of Washington County and those here who disagree with them by calling them stupid or uneducated, I remind you that there are still two interstate highways that lead out of the county. I haven't seen any blockades on them so I assume they are still open. We have Greyhound service and an airport as well. I'm not really urging you to leave, just respect the views of others who respectfully disagree with you.
- I have to say I just chuckle anytime Bob calls anyone stupid. For someone to appear to be stupid to Bob, just how stupid would they have to be? Bob, how about getting even a 4th grader's ability to understand simple percantages and statistics before calling anyone else stupid...
- Basically, it seems anytime either party wins a landslide instead of doing what most americans want them to do, they just start to spend money with no end in sight. Had Obama made balancing the deficit his primary objective I think he would be amazed at how many americans would be standing behind him right now. Instead he has taken the mantel of the "biggest spending" President in the history of the USA. Bob and his fellow liberal sheep seem to confuse america's fondness of Obama on a personal level for agreeing with his agenda. Most americans against his "big govt" and "big spending" style of govt. But they like Obama on a personal level. As time goes by though and Obama keeps saying one thing and doing another that will also fade. No need to argue this one, in just one year we shall see how much america likes Obama, Pelosi, and the liberal big spending with no end in sight agenda!
- dlsdls: You always have good, educated comments and I enjoy your opinions. Bob belittled my comments v/s providing informed comments to the contrary (Duh...), so I will always return the favor to he or whomever. Beyond college, I've lived in Washington County my entire life and you will never see me initiate anything, only react to others arrogance. Bob is bi-polar with his commentary. He rips people of Washington County (for no reason) one day then he trys to help the next day. I really don't care, however, I will react to him accordingly then move on. I am well educated on politics and only try to share my views.
- Bob, I’m reading the comic book “Obama goes to Washington”. It’s actually scary & hilarious. Fact; according to exit polls, Republican gubernatorial candidates took 62% of the independent vote in Virginia and 58% of the independent vote in New Jersey. Obama won up to 2/3 of the independent vote in many areas to get elected. As well as getting some Rep’s to crossover & invigorating Dem “Acorn” driven turnout. In this round of elections, Independent’s went for the Rep’s nearly 2 to 1. THIS is the reason that so many Dem’s are nervous. Elections are won by solidifying your base and getting the Independent vote. Obama is losing independents very quickly, this does not bode well for you Dem’s in the 2010 elections and most(with sense) know it. This should concern you Bob, the slaughter that occurred in Virginia and New Jersey is alive, well and brewing strongly across the entire USA. One of the most liberal states (NJ)goes to the GOP? You're in a state of denial Bobby.
- Jar: Please take a look at my 1:23pm post. I suspect the Dem's may buy an additional 5 Million votes before the next election-this is their master plan and they may be able to get it passed with some Republican help-I would also be confident of a big Republican swing but this situation gives me reservations. I hope this is not the case but....
- powder1 has it right but it felt real good to get a Republican Gov. here in Virginia.
- I think it reflects the state of the economy. Gov. O'Malley should be paying attention...he could be next.
- Yes it reflects the dissatisfaction of those who voted.
- I think people have had enough with runaway govt spending. As more and more people across the country tighten their belts in these tough economic times they expect their govt to do the same. When they see that govt is spending wildly inspite of how it only hurts us to get deeper and deeper into debt and print more and more money will just continue to devalue the dollar. All politicans whatever party they are in should pay attention, citizens across the country are fed up with the insane, out of control spending that our leaders are producing. Amazing these politicians do not get it. The democrats got their landslide because of the economy and also because bush spent far too much. So their solution is to spend even more??? Well, I think if this healthcare bill passes and cap and trade passes you will see the most incumbants voted out of office in the history of this country. When politicians want to continue to ignore what the citizens want they will eventually get voted out.
- Actually bnf, I think Acorn failed to get out the vote in NJ & VA due to being overwhelmed with defending all the corruption charges against them. Maybe those voters on Tuesday also finally realized that no matter how many times President Obama says he's created 'or saved' 1 million jobs, or Tim Geithner says the economy is great, there's one truth difficult to ignore: unemployment keeps going up and is now at 10.2%. Despite the trillions of dollars government has dumped into trying to 'fix' the economy, our 'leader' responds with Hope and Blame (Bush) rather than the promised Hope and Change.
- Republicans and Democrats both have things to learn from the elections. In NJ Democrats need to run a candidate who has not been a failure in office during his first term. The likelihood of continued Republican victories in NJ is unlikely. In NY's Congressional race, the Republicans need to learn their electorate will not be dictated to by national conservative figures. In VA both parties need to see that Virginia is still in play.One election it runs Democrat and another Republican. The changing demographics of VA put in play in many elections. As dlsdls says e two party system endures. This nation will never be anything else. Opinions are too divided for any one party to long be in office. Whatever party is in office tends to discredit itself and subsequently to lose within a few election cycles. For those of you leery of big government, perhaps you ought to ensure the success of the two party system with each party running a separate branch. Little is accomplished during those times with all the bickering
- Neither Republicans nor Democrats determine the outcome of elections. It is the independents who rule the day, they swing from one party to another over time. The two main parties will probably never be able to establish long term control of either the White House or Congress because both parties are incapable of building a majority of the electorate over the long run because of the extremist base each has. Whatever party is in power manages to alienate independents, causing them to sooner or later switch sides for a few elections. The pendulum goes back and forth.
- Of course it made adifference. If it was all local politics, why do you think Oboma campaigned so hard for the Democracts. If the winners or loosers are soley determinded based on their competence, why bother to inject your self into the campaign so forcefully?! But I think the blowout in 2010 will favor the Republicans more than any time in recent memory. Our economy is suffering and what do the Democrats offer, more big govt., more spending, more programs, exactly what this country does not need. To focus so radically on the health care and gobal warming in the middle of the worst economic downturn in quarter of a century makes no sense unless there is another goal in mind that is more important to them that improving the American Economy. I worry that a new world war mar start as a result of the perception of American Govt ineptness. Did you all see in the news that Russia simulated nuclear bombing of Poland!!! that the kind of mindset that leads to new agression/war. Not to mention the Iran mess
- We live in the BEST Country in the World!! Many would not even let a site exist that allows free(somewhat) speech. The question states "Do you think..." It wants an OPINION. Many responses start "I think"... Pointing out all the faults of a two party system is not the answer."it felt real good to get a Republican Gov. here in Virginia." Welcome Steeplejack!! That is the "feeling" I got from the news. I also think (theres that word) that many many people are not liking what they see being done to this country. Our President should be worried. He is going to leave a legacy of being by far the WORST leader we ever had. Thats what I "think".
- Our government never learns....where else in the world can you buy a house with no money down and the government borrow $8,000 to pay you to buy a house!!!! Obama would not have campaigned if he didn't think he had a chance to make a difference. Unfortunatley for him he did make a difference, just not in the way he intended. The liberals who say The to gov races had noting to do with national politics, are then goin gto some even more obscure area in New York and claiming victory over a candidate who had good ides but came across as being not the brightes person in town. most of the photos i saw he had his mouth open in an odd maner. you just wair there will me many more opportunities to show the liberls how much America thinks their ideas stink. Ironically Oboma in the in may change America in a way the liberals never intended. Open thier eyes to the left slide that unfortunately way to many Republicans embraced. I cant wait for Glen Beck/ Sarah Palin ticket in 2012!! Love to watch that debate with Obama
- You Betcha!
- jca, I think you are wrong about america always being a 2 party system. I think more and more people are getting fed up with the massive spending and big govt of both parties. I mean most republicans are really just "democrat lite" when it comes to govt spending these days. Used to be a time republicans stood for less govt and less spending today while they still stand for less govt and spending then most of the democrats the difference between the parties continues to get smaller and smaller. Fiscally there was not much of a difference between Clinton and Bush. Republicans had they acted like "true" fiscal conservatives for the 6 years that Bush had a republican majority in congress, I think they would still be in power today. Instead they acted more like democrats when it came to fiscal matters spending like nobody's business. Republicans have also allowed themselves to get too wrapped up in the social issues letting themselves be too defined by the religious right.
- The religious right has helped to turn many away from the republican party. What we need is a new party. A party that takes fiscal responsibility and does not spend money in an out of control fashion. A party that is a more limited in role in govt. A party that is for a more limited military in presence in the world. We need a strong military, but do we need to be the world's policeman? We need a party that truly reflects the america of today. I do not think that either party reflects what the majority of the country believes in. Many times we vote for the "lesser evil" on the ballot. How many of us can truly say that in the past 4 elections we voted for someone for President that we truly thought was someone who really stood for what we believed in ??? I think the time of a 3rd party is definitely coming. We just need someone who has the values of a Ron Paul combined with the charm and charisma of a Barack Obama. I do hold out hope that this can indeed happen. America is getting fed up with both parties.
- Glen Beck in charge would be a good thing. I would feel good about that. Very SAFE! The Reps. need to embrace more people like him and they would be a force to contend with!!
- What's the opinion of the NY 23rd Congressional Vote?
- The only thing dumber than a person who thinks Obama is going to really "change" anything is a person who thinks replacing him with a republican would be any better.
- Superman, spoken like a true "know it all". Not saying McCain would have been great, but at least he is against the healthcare bill, voted against the stimulas package and is against that job killing cap and trade bill. So, for you to say it wouldnt be better is only true if you think that Obama's insane spending is actually a good thing.
- You betcha!
- The two party system has survived for so long because one or the other of the major two parties co-opts for itself any new ideas that come down the road. If a third party would try to arise based upon libertarian principles, e.g., one party or the other would soon begin to espouse those self-same values. The Dems and Reps go where the votes are for their views. The parties are not original thinkers. Neither has a morally consistent point of view. Too many ands ifs and buts in their platforms.
- The Republicans are unlikely to build upon their victory in NJ with any further victories there. Too Democratic a state. The Democrats are unlikely to hold the NY Congressional seat because it is too conservative an area. Virginia is more interesting because it does seem to be in play in the longer run. With the continuing growth in Northern Virginia, it could become another Maryland in which the rural areas vote Republican and the more numerous Democrats in urban areas win the state-wide elections. National figures weighed into both NJ and NY races, and both candidates lost. Obama didn't help in NJ and Palin, et al didn't help in NY.
- Yes, unfortunately its not enough. We have the worse of the worse still holding a majority and still in office. The absolute worse administration doing absolutely bad things to our country and the economy. How can anyone still believe that Obama has a clue ? The absolute last thing "WE THE PEOPLE' need to do is to put a third party Libertarian or other representative that will get even less done for our country and the people. Come on, what can the stooge Ron Paul with his 3% support which is made up of 2 1/2% truthers get accomplished ?
- liberal Read my earlier comment about the NY 23. If the Republicans would have nominated Hoffman, the Conservative Party candidate, or someone moderate to conservative, they would have won. The woman the party leaders is not a moderate or anything close. She is probably as liberal as Nancy Pelosi. For them to nominate her is like the Democrats to nominate Orin Hatch for president. Republicans will vote for a true moderate like Richard Lugar of Indiana or John McCain, but this woman was too far out to be a Republican. Then she drops out and endorses the Democrat. The fact that the winner had 49% and the Conservative had 46% with the rest going to the Republican indicates a close race with the GOP voters divided and confused. They can thank their party leaders for that. The real test of this district will be in 2010 if they run a real Republican. But, maybe that district isn't as Republican as the media made it out to be. It has been redistricted a number of times.
- For those of you who wonder why certain persons here constantly belittle the people of this area, notice that they are always in the minority opinion. They never take the side of the majority of respondents to the poll so they must express the opinion that the majority of people here must be stupid since they don't agree with them. This is typical of the elitist, antidemocratic neoliberals who are in charge of this country. If you don't agree, you are stupid or disloyal or a dangerous person just like all those "terrorists" who march on Washington. You know, the white haired ladies, middle age accountants in suits, clean cut twenty some year olds, bespectacled housewives with their kids, working class guys and all the rest who carry dangerous weapons like cardboard signs, American flags and Bibles. Real anarchists out to overthrow the government. Really scary people.
- Liberal,it only takes a little research to answer your question. Mr. Owens assured voters that he felt the public option had no place in the health care reform bill. Contrary to that position, Mr. Owens now since being elected Tuesday, indicates that he intends to vote in favor of the bill even though it now contains a public option. I haven't had time yet to see how he voted. He also stated he opposed Medicare benefit cuts, taxing h-care benefits or increasing taxes on the middle class in anyway. It’s highly unlikely Mr. Owens would have won those crucial few thousand votes if the voting public was aware of his intent with regard to the Health Care bill. The majority of residents in this district do not support the Health Reform bill as it is now written and many feel like they've become victims of a fraud perpetrated by their chosen candidate. You probably didn’t hear that from the state run media or Pelosi did you? And there are those who still trust and believe the typical corrupt/dishonest politicians?
- You guys read too little. I never called anyone stupid nor did i use that word. It seems when someone disagrees with the "majority" they are call all sorts of names. To say the "majority" are one brick short of a full load is an understatement!
- In a hostile act, the U.S. House and Socialist Pigs have voted to approve the take over of 20% of the U.S. economy thru a so called "heathcare reform bill." Thru a series of back-door deals, earmarks, and politcal threats Progressive Pelosi forced enough votes to pass the bill. The entire bill is about tax and control, not healthcare as some had hoped. It is a sad, sad day for America.
- chicagobob Why don't you concentrate your sarcastic and insulting remarks on the people who use that kind of language against you? You have made such comments to me and I have never attacked you personally or made any statements regarding your intellect with the exception of the time I questioned your integrity when you basically called me a liar. I don't agree with those of you who support big government and limited personal freedom but I don't question your intellect, just your opinion.
- dls, I think questioning Bob's intellect is a fair question.
- My two cents worth. I do not think a state election, in this case for governor, has a lot to do with the perception of national leadership. While the President has many opponents, he was fairly chosen; and it will only be when the voters choose members of the Congress that we will have an idea of the President's leadership qualities. Then in 2012 there will be the final contest on the party to lead the country for the next four years. Anything before that is speculation.
- I find mudslinging to be a unproductive, even counterproductive, exercise, one that is only good for antagonizing others. Only recently have I begun to post anything on this forum so I do not know the history of the acrimony between left and right here. I would only ask that there be a "cease-fire" and that this be our own little "DMZ" for each of us to express our point of view. While I am a left of center guy, exactly where depends upon the issue, I have benefited from the points of view of the more conservative/libertarian folks posting here.
- Once again I make general comments and several people take it personal. It is pretty much a conservative way of life on this site. Disagree and your called names. Voice an opinion and if you don't agree with lsd or 37 your slammed against the wall. It is very typical of conservatives not only in Washington county but throughout the US. They know everything on every subject. Their not looking for a debate there looking to make fun of people they disagree with. I think they actually hope all liberals leave this site so they can control it. Perhaps you all should meet at a resturant and whine about the facts of life. Perhaps they will serve you some cheeze!
- Bob, as much as you complain about Washington County you should just grow up or move. If I were posting on the Chicago Tribune web site it would be mainly liberals. Fact is, Washington County has always been conservative leaning so deal with it and stop acting like a baby! If you post respectful commentary on the liberal side of this site, we will all read and digest your thoughts. You constantly degrade and attack folks from this area just like Obama constantly degrades America. Hmmmm, must be a liberal manchild issue....:)
- jca, While I do not agree with you many times. I do respect your opinions and I do learn from what you post. Many liberals on here however, do name call and you will find out that Proudliberal and her other screen names do many times start name calling. Proudliberal actually goes so far as to call you a bush lover anytime you disagree with Obama's Policies even though I have stated many times that there was very few things Bush did that I agree with. I definitely do get sucked in by these and return their attacks. But i also have asked many times if we can keep the debate civil and you will notice I have always kept the debate civil with you because you did so with me. I also have disagreed with many of the consevatives on here at times and we also have always kept things civil. Basically every name calling,and attacks are part of the debate you can always find either Chicagobob or Proudliberal and all her other names such as Timetoevolve involved. That is definitely the case on here.
- chicagobob, Jcabowers is definitely more no the liberal side, I have never seen anyone on here attack him. Do you know why? Because Jcabowers always makes thoughtful, well thought out posts that do not attack anyone else. So while many on here may not agree with him, they are respectful to him. People treat you the way you treat them, Bob.
- 37 and lsd: Read your own comments (if you can). You guys always turn on people who disagree. Don't give me this garbage you repsect anyone that is not ultra conservative or think government should stay out of your lives. It never has and it never will. Any comment I make here is reason for you to belittle me. Perhaps if you stop calling me I names and insulting me then I would return the favor. Until then...............
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